You call it hit detection, i call it over compensating and poor aim.

Most good players don't have the problem to the degree you describe it.

dude i understand your frustration but this has nothing to do with strafing.

the problem as you clearly stated is hit detection. In addition, the HMG fires whipped cream, and the turn speed on the heavy suit is the same as the turn speed on a tectonic plate. strafing in any shooter should never be removed.


your problem is the heavy suit, the HMG and the bad aiming system with its mediocre hit detection inaddition to the HMGs disperion of about 35% and damage drop off, and horrible range make it combined with the suit the most ineffective killing machine in the game. in fact i salute your courage for making the effort for using the heavy instead of just going AR.


--D lengendary hero


P.S. ARs especially full autos like GEKs are all really OP, for various reasons.

have you ever asked a question but realized you already had the answer before you finished?

your problem is not strafing its hit detection. dnt worry it pisses me off too. but its really the hit detection, i lost plenty of encounters because my flaylocks went right through people.

dnt worry about the Trolls, they get paid for that. listen to me.

if he was shield tanking (which is very common broken tactic because the caldari logi can get 914 ehp without any penalty.), and he was side stepping 15m away, while your firing an HMG, you lose. and will always lose. because of the following:


1. HMG verses shields equals does not work.
2. bullet weapons verse shields @ range does not work
3. bullet weapons verse shields @ range with HMG dispersions
4. ^^ these + low damage per shot, + low turn spead


these = heavy dies everytime.
now add strafing and now you will continue to do absolutely nothing to these guys forever.

now add a GEK with the 25% damage proficiency and headshots. you as a heavy will lose your life savings.


Basically, this is the baine of being a heavy, this is our pain. CCP must fix this. but NOT strafing. strafing is a valid tactic. making logi's have more ehp han a heavy and having ARs out DPS a HMG is NOT a vaid tatic. :)

I just want to add in.. If you have problems with people who are strafing.. You should try to match their strafing, counter strafe. Regynum has a tutorial on youtube you should definitely check out. Look for dust 514 strafe tutorial. He does a great job of talking bout it and how to counter strafe.

real question Jaraiya, how would you suggest to the DEV's they take out the ability to move side ways and shoot at the same time "strafing?" then how would you go about telling the players that oh yeah last night we took out the ability to shoot while moving side ways.

^^this. Strafing is a legitimate tactic used even in real life situation mostly in CQC, but the idea is a mobile target is harder to hit tha a stationary one, also strafing is normally done while moving toward cover, plus you can run and shoot in real life.


however, you are right that stepping back and forth in the same spot should not allow you to dodge bullets because it is impossible (because you basically in the same spot....lol)

again, the two-step strafe is a tactic that takes advantage of a glitch in the hit detection, which is not designed to be a tactic in the game.

so inshort [b] strafing = legit; using the two-step to tactic advantage of glitches = no

Thank you!

I was wondering if any one was ever going to see my point!

This really needs to be remedied, although I am admittedly at a loss as to how.